All podcast content by Mark Rosewater
I’m pulling out of my driveway! We all know what that means!
It’s time for another Drive to Work.
Okay. So today, I’m going to be doing a podcast based on an
article I did for our 20th anniversary. So what happened was, when Magic turned 20, we had articles all
tie into the number 20. And so I did “Twenty
Things That Were Going to Kill Magic.”
Tongue planted firmly in cheek. So basically what I was talking about was “What
are the big controversies in Magic’s
history where people were like ‘This is it! This is going to be the end of Magic.” And things that—you know, what
were the real controversies of the game. And so today, and probably beyond just
today, since I have 20, I want to talk about—to kind of give you more in-depth
on “What exactly happened?”
Now, I have 20 things to get through, so I’m going to try to
go quickly here, since we have a lot to cover. So number one. The introduction
of 60-card decks and four-card deck limits. Okay. So when Magic first began, the rule was, you had 40 cards, and you could
play as many cards as you wanted. You guys might know this rule as the Limited
rules. Essentially when Richard made the game, I think his thought process was
that people were going to have the amount of cards not too dissimilar from what
Limited is now. That how much are you going to spend? Oh, you know, you’ll buy
a starter and a couple—when Magic
first started, starters were 60-card decks, and so you would start with like a
starter, maybe a couple boosters. But you would have about maybe six boosters
worth of cards, which is what we play with in Limited now.
And so the original deck constructions were actually very,
very similar to Limited deck constructions. You have to have 40 cards, you need
to have as many cards as you want, because well, how many are you going to
have? And the thing to remember is that when Richard first made the game, his
thought process was that because people weren’t going to have that many cards,
he understood that the rare cards in volume would be problematic. He just
didn’t think people would have them. And he felt like if the game got to the
point where people had that many cards, well then it was a runaway success and
they’ll solve that problem later. That’s (???).
And so when we first announced this, it was—I mean think
about it. It’s like “All of a sudden, you’re saying to me there’s
restrictions.” You have to have more cards in your deck, which means you had to
own more cards, you could only play four, so if you had made your deck full of
Plague Rats, which was a very common thing for people to do because Plague Rats
were common, we’re saying, “You can’t do that.” And so players were
taken aback. They’re like “I want to play with my cards. I’m not happy.”
But I think people quickly understood why. Although once
again, the reason that it took us a while to understand why is, in order to get
why it’s broken, you have to know that broken cards exist. Remember, at this
point in Magic, we were not
announcing—Wizards was not announcing what cards existed. There was no
rarities. Nothing. It was all a big mystery. And so people didn’t know what
existed. It’s not like you knew all the broken cards. Maybe, maybe, maybe you
had one, and it was early.
Okay. The next thing was the creation
of the Banned and Restricted list. That happened shortly after. Very
shortly thereafter. So the Banned and Restricted list said, “Okay. For the
first time, we’re going to tell you there are cards that you own that either
you cannot play, or you can only have one of.” And that is—I mean think about
it. That is pretty radical, when it’s like—for example, something I often
explain to people is, “We don’t like banning cards.” I always consider it a
failure when we ban cards, in the sense that we want you to play with the cards
we sell you.
Now, the reason we do it, the reason that we do ban cards is
that sometimes the environment is bad, and we need to fix it. And here’s the
more mega-important thing, which is—I mean, I think the game would be worse if
we didn’t take risks and didn’t push the envelope. And the banned list is
important because it allows us to take risks, knowing that there’s a safety net
in case something happened.
And I think the game would be far worse if we never took
those risks. Meaning if we kind of never banned a card, that would mean we were
being too safe and too conservative. And I think I would say this—that the
greatest risk to Magic is not taking
risks. And so I think the banned list is important. We never like to ban
something. That is never a happy moment. But we do believe, for the overall
health of the game, the banned list existing is good.
Now, when we announced the existence of a banned list and
restricted list, it didn’t go over well. I mean, whenever you say to people,
“Hey, we’re not letting you play with your cards,” they’re not happy. And this
one at least—I mean the other problem with this one is, the people who were in
charge of our organized play system when it first began, when Wizards first
started out, it was growing so fast that they were just hiring friends of
employees. Whoever they could get in the door.
And the early people that ran Organized Play really did not
have a lot of experience with Organized Play, and they did not have a lot of
experience with any sort of strategic organized play. And so the people making
the decisions, it wasn’t R&D originally. R&D now makes the decisions.
But at the time, the people choosing like what got banned and what didn’t
really didn’t have as good a grasp on the game as one would hope.
And Dingus Egg is the kind of thing where it was the obvious
thing, if you didn’t know any better, to put in your land destruction deck,
because it killed them for doing what you were doing. But the good players
understood that “Look, if you’re destroying their land, you don’t need a Dingus
Egg. Anything can kill them.” And that just use more utility cards and find
ways to take the utility cards and kill them with the utility cards. Creatures
that do utility effects or something. You didn’t need to have a dedicated card
just to damage them. And so like Dingus Egg really wasn’t that important to the
deck. So that getting restricted was sort of like “Well, you guys don’t quite
get what the problem here is.”
And so I think early on, not only did it exist and so the
restricted list and the banned list got some ill will, but like the choices
made did not engender a lot of trust on the part of the players. Because the
better players were like, “What are you doing? Why are these the cards you’re
getting rid of? These aren’t the problem.” I mean, they did get rid of the
Power Nine, and some of the broken cards got written up. But there are others
that were very, very good. Balance, like I talked about, that took a while
before anyone bothered to restrict it. Even though it was a really, really good
card.
Okay. Number three: the start of Type 2. So Type 2 is what
you might know as Standard. So what happened was, when Magic first came out, there was one way to play Magic. It was Magic. There was no formats, there was just one way to play. Even
Limited, when the game first started, really wasn’t a big thing.
But eventually, R&D came to the realization that if we
didn’t ever have any rotation of any kind, if all cards just stayed in the
format, the format was going to break under the weight of it. Or it’s going to
have major power issues and just get overpowered. I mean, Vintage obviously
today is super pumped and very overpowered.
And they came up with the idea of “What if we have--the main
format we push—one of the formats we push…” At the time we didn’t know it would
be the main one I guess, although I’m sure we wanted it to be. Was a format
that constantly was rotating. And it was a very radical idea. I mean, once
again, whenever the message was “Hey, you can’t play cards you own,” that never
goes over well. And of all 20 things I’m talking about in this podcast and
future podcasts, this one actually I think created the most unhappiness.
Now, if you’ve ever lived through some of the other ones
I’ve talked about, there is major, major unhappiness from the players. So it’s
not like the audience hasn’t gotten very upset about things. But this was the
one that my memory is—I mean, there were people who were just—I mean, I guess
whenever there’s a big controversy, people threaten to quit the game, and all
sorts of stuff, but this one was super serious because people…
It’s funny now, because looking back, looking at Standard—I
mean, Standard now is the most popular format by leaps and bounds. I think
people understand kind of the richness of Standard and how it lets people get
into the game, and how it keeps things constantly fresh so that the
environment’s changing, is what makes deckbuilding a lot of fun is not that it’s
exactly the same all the time. And if you want formats that don’t change as
much, we have older formats that do that, that are a little more static in how
they work. But it’s nice to have the main format be pretty dynamic so you’re
constantly changing things.
But at the time, it is very, very easy to see the negative,
because the negative was immediate, and
the positive was less obvious and long-term. And so the players are like “What?
I can’t play with my cards? I don’t like that.” And like a lot of the things
that Standard would go on to do, it was hard to see at the time.
And I was in R&D, I was behind the walls, I was
definitely—although I wasn’t there yet. But I mean, as a member of R&D,
now, I can look back and like “Oh, I get where they were coming from. I
understand.” I mean, obviously we all see why they did it, but it’s something
where when you really understand the motivation behind it, you get it, but it’s
hard sometimes. And that the players are very focused on the here and now, as
they should be, it’s not their job to worry about the game a year from now or
two years from now or ten years from now. Their job is to (???) the game right
now. And right now, not letting me play all my cards, it’s a big downer. And
rightfully—I mean, I understand why they were upset. I think we did the right
thing.
And that went over okay. I mean, most people could get the
book. But in the summer of 1994, in Atlanta, there’s a summer convention, game
convention, called DragonCon. And Wizards of the Coast did a promotion in which
if you went to DragonCon, there was a special unique card called Nalathni
Dragon. Which was a small flying red dragon that had banding, which no red card
had ever had up to that point. Or since that point. It’s the only red card ever
with banding.
And it was cute, it was weird, it wasn’t particularly
strong, but it was unique. And players got upset. They’re like—because
remember, this is pre-eBay. This is pre-Amazon. Like, it was not easy to get
your hands on things that you were not there for. So either you were there, you
knew a friend that was there, but unless you somehow had some connection to the
event, you could not get this card. Forget getting four of them to play with—you
wanted to have a playset. Just getting this card was impossible. Or very, very
hard. And people were just like, “What are you doing?” And they made a big
uproar.
And one of the things, by the way, I wanted to stress of
these things I’m going through today, some of the things I think were healthy
for the game. I think having a 60-card deck limitation, a four-card cap, and a
banned and restricted list, and Standard. Those are all good things. Those are
all good for the health of the game. I get why players were upset when we
announced them, but they were the right call.
I think Nalathni Dragon was the opposite. We made a mistake.
We should not be making functionally unique cards that are super hard to get.
Now, one of the things we’ve done, the new things we’ve done over the years is
we’ve said, “Okay. We do want to make hard-to-get cards. It’s a collectible. We
want to make things that are collectible, but instead of making unique things,
we will make version of it.
And that came out of people being upset about this thing,
and rightfully so. In fact, we ended up putting it into Duelist… I think #3. [NLH—Yes.] Nalathni Dragon. So that
people could get it. Because we realized we had made a mistake.
Okay, number five. Chronicles.
Okay. So Chronicles, so what happened
was, early Magic had not had a big
print run. That I talked about how we made a print run and it sold out, and
doubled it and sold out, and doubled and sold out. So Magic was quickly growing, but some of the early sets had a very
small print run. So Chronicles said,
“Okay. Let’s make a product…” It was white-bordered, because at the time
white-border meant reprint, “Let’s make an all-reprint product of stuff that
was in sets that people might want that they were never able to get their hands
on.” And so it’s kind of meant to be a “best-of,” sort of the best-of of recent
sets. I think it had stuff from Arabian
Nights, Antiquities, and Legends,
I believe. And also at the same time, in Fourth
Edition, they also brought back some other cards.
And so here’s what the problem was is, if you understand
supply and demand, when supply is low, demand is high. And what that means is,
a lot of these cards from early expansions had a very high value level. Because
there weren’t that many of them. And along comes Chronicles and Fourth Edition,
and takes cards that existed in some quantity, and I’m making up these numbers,
so these are completely made-up numbers, but I’m trying to demonstrate a point
her.
Let’s imagine there were 20,000 of a particular card. And
then along comes Chronicle, and now
there’s 100,000 or 200,000. Like, the amount of cards literally were
quadrupling or quintupling or just—all of a sudden there were a flood of the cards,
and the cards that had a special value because there weren’t that many of them,
all of a sudden there’s a whole bunch of them.
And the people who own those cards, who had collected
them—because remember, early on, Magic
is a trading card game. For some people it’s a game, for some, they’re trading
cards, for a lot of people it’s both. And for the people that collected the
cards, like, it kind of undercut the value of their cards. And they were really
upset. Now, problem number five led into problem number six. So number six was
the Reserved List. So let me explain what the Reserved List was.
So what happened was, we made these cards, a lot of people
flipped out, and they were very upset. And so we were trying to say to
collectors, “Look. We’re not going to undercut your stuff. We’re going to
reprint some stuff, but we’re not going to reprint everything.” So we said,
“Okay, here’s what we’re going to do. Every set, we’re going to pick 80% of…”
Originally it was uncommons and rares, and later the uncommon part got taken
out because it was confusing because uncommons applied to certain sets but not
other sets, so “Let’s just make it clean and clear, just rares.”
And the idea was, 80% of all rares would go on a list, and if it’s on the list, we
promise never to reprint it. If it’s not on the list, we reserve the right to
reprint it. But if it’s on the list, we will not reprint it. Now, the Reserved
List is super contentious. And the problem was, some people were like, “I want
access to the cards. I want those cards. I want you to print those cards.” And
us saying, “We’re not going to print them,” made a lot of people unhappy. Even
today it makes a lot of people unhappy. And the problem we’re caught in is,
there are people that very, very much don’t want us to reprint the Reserved
List. I know they’re not as public on social media, because the loud portion
very much is against it, but we hear from them and they very much do care.
And while I will go on record, I mean I’ve gone on record
many times, I don’t think it was a great decision to make it in the first
place. But I do believe that we have a responsibility, we made a promise, even
though I wasn’t even here when the promise was made, in fact almost nobody in
the building was here when the promise was made. But we as a company made a
promise, there are people that very much do care and want us to keep our
promise, and so we are keeping our promise.
I think it’s important, I think that as a company, that like
your word is valuable, and we want people to trust us. And so as much as I
understand how people want us to break the Reserved List, is something that we
did in fact promise, that there are people, a decent number of people, though
they’re not super vocal online. That really do want us to keep. And so we are
keeping it.
Next. Pitch cards. So Alliances,
first set I worked on, had five cards in it. Force of Will being the most
famous of these. PICTURE And what pitch cards were, was you didn’t have to
spend mana for it. Instead of spending mana, you could pitch, or exile
basically, a card from your hand. Actually, did you exile them? [NLH—Yes.] It might actually have just
gone to your graveyard. No, I think they were—I don't know. I forget. Anyway, everyone
who’s played Force of Will, you know you have to get rid of a blue card from
your hand. You also had to pay a life. A couple of them you paid a life.
Anyway, what the idea was—it used to be, if you were tapped
out, your opponent knew you couldn’t do anything. And now (???) tapped out, you
still could do stuff. Well, there were people who thought that was a horrible
idea. That we were taking something that was just an intrinsic part of Magic. Knowing that your opponent was
tapped out means that you now have the flexibility to do something with a
security that they can’t do anything. Really rubbed some people the wrong way.
Now, others loved the
card. Loved loved loved—in fact, Force of Will is a much-beloved card. But it
was a good example of how when sometimes you change something that people take
as a given, it is very disconcerting when you take away the given from them.
And people were actually quite upset that pitch cards existed. In fact, the
story at the time, I told this in my Alliances
podcast, which was in our own company, there were people in our Game Support,
or Customer Service, as it was called at the time, that like didn’t think we
should make them. That wrote letters to our CEO and said, “You need to take
these out of the set, this is fundamentally wrong, we can’t do this.”
Now, R&D believed in them, and I think that the important
thing is the idea that Magic is a
game in which we don’t want people to ever rest on their laurels and say, “Well,
I know this is true,” in that we wanted people to say, “Oh, well it used to be
this wasn’t true, and now it is.” And that’s how the game changes. And so I
think pitch cards were a very, very important step forward in us just doing
different things and making you rethink strategy. And that every time we do something
radical, people step up and we’ll have some more coming. But usually I find
that it advances the game and does good things for the game.
Okay, next is premium cards. Okay, so with Urza’s Legacy, we started printing
cards, what people call “foil,” we refer to it as “premium.” Real quickly, why
does Wizards call them “premium” when everyone else calls them “foil”? And the
answer is, we make more than one trading card game, and that over the years, not
all our trading card games use foiling for their premium cards.
And so it’s important to us that we have a singular term
that we use for all our games. And so because not all of our premium cards are
foil, we refer to our premium cards as premium cards, so that we can be
consistent. I understand that in Magic,
most—in fact, we’ve made a few premium cards that weren’t foil. For very
special things. But I understand that most of them are foil. But when I call
them premium, that’s why.
One of the feedbacks we’d been getting from collectors was
that Magic was a little too easy to
collect. And so what we decided is, “Okay. Let’s add some added value.” And what
we did is, we said, “For every card in the set, there’s going to exist a
version that is in premium.” Premium being in most cases foil. But a special
version of the card. And the idea was that the premium version appears at a
much lower frequency than the normal card. And so if you’re a collector, “Ooh,
collecting the premium version of the set is a much bigger task.” Also, for
players, it’s just some added value. “Here’s some prettier cards. If you want
to bling out your deck or something, here are some cards you can chase that functionally
are the same, but just a little bit different and people sort of want to chase
after that.”
Well, some people did not like premium. Which is funny, because
it sort of added value. It’s like, “These cards have extra value to them, and
we’re just adding them to the product. Before you didn’t have them and now you
have them. And if you don’t like them, trade them to people who do like them.”
But there were people that were upset. And they felt like—some people just didn’t
like the foils, some didn’t like what the foils represented. Some people felt
like, “I think Magic’s too hard to
collect, why are you making it harder to collect?” Although we stressed, like, “You
don’t have to collect the foils, that’s for people to opt into it.” But anyway,
people were upset.
Number nine: the Sixth Edition rules. This is probably number two on
the things that upset people the most. So what happened was, early Magic had a hodge-podge of a rules set.
That the way it worked was, every time we had a problem, we kind of solved the
problem on a case-by-case basis. And what that led to was a Band-Aid ruling
system, where there wasn’t any consistency to how the game worked, you kind of
had to know card-by-card how things worked. And that’s a problem. It’s hard to
learn a game in which, “Well, this card has a rule that works differently than
this card’s rule,” and how? Why do they work differently?
But the problem with cleaning things up is, look, not everything
worked exactly the same. And there was a very, very big outcry against what people
felt was us fundamentally changing the game. And like I said, we tried to
explain that what we were doing was improving it, and that we were doing something
that was good for the long-term. But once again, it required you in the
short-term learning new rules. Cards you had didn’t quite work like the way
they used to. And that people resisted. And there was—it’s the first time we
really overhauled the rules, and obviously we do other rules overhauls, not as
big as Sixth Edition, and it was
disconcerting.
And if you want to go back and read some of the posts form
the time, you would think the sky was falling. People were really, really
unhappy about it. And like I said, the only thing I remember people being more unhappy
about was the introduction of Standard, Type 2.
And in some ways, you could argue there was more noise because
the internet was louder at the time. Like when we did Type 2, that was just the
Usenets. I mean, they were on the bulletin boards and yelling, but it was a
lower volume of people. By the time Sixth
Edition rules came out, the internet was more in bloom, and there were Magic sites, and there really was—it was
much easier, and there were soapboxes for people to have. And at the time people
were writing columns—like, there was really a place and a means for people to
express their unhappiness. So in some ways, I think people were slightly more unhappy
with Type 2, but they were maybe louder here because they had a louder
microphone because the internet.
Okay. Number ten. Magic
Online. Okay. So, we had planned from pretty early on that we wanted to have a
computer version of Magic, because not
everybody live in a town where they can easily find other people to play with. If
you live in a big city, sure, but if you live in a small city, it might not be
that easy. You might not be near things. Might not be near a game store or near
somewhere where people are playing.
Plus, there’s also people who their lives have changed. They
have families. Or they just don’t have the ability to get away as easy. But
late at night, they can sit at home and play. So we really wanted the means to
allow people that weren’t able to play in the current system to play. And the
idea there was to do Magic Online.
And our goal with Magic
Online was to try as much as we could to capture the feel of paper. That’s
always been our goal. And part of that was, we didn’t treat the game any
differently. Like, a lot of video games act very differently. We didn’t treat
it as much like a video game as we treated it like an online version of Magic. Of the paper game. And so we did
a lot of things. I mean, part of the most controversial was, we sold packs much
like we sold packs in paper.
And at the time, most computer games didn’t do that. I mean,
now the idea of buying virtual objects is a little more commonplace. But at the
time, it was really, really radical. Games didn’t do that. They didn’t sell you
virtual components that you had to pay real prices for. You would pay a lump
sum and they’d give you whatever you needed. And also, there’s a lot of concern
that once the computers happened, what would happen to the stores? Would people
stop coming in and no one would play and the stores would all dry up, and then people
were forced to play Magic Online?
Anyway, there were a lot of concerns early on. But no one
quite understood the impact of Magic Online.
And you know, there was a lot of nervousness on all different levels. I guess
it was funny. There were people who wanted to play it online and were mad about
our choices of how to execute it, and there were people that didn’t want to
play it online and were worried that online existing would impact them outside
of the online world.
And luckily, as time has showed, Magic Online’s gone on to become a very key part of Magic. There’s a lot of people who play
on Magic Online and a lot of people who
their exposure to Magic is through Magic Online.
So anyway, I am almost to work, and I think I hit the
halfway spot. And it’s clear I’m not doing twenty things before I get to work.
I just want to do a little recap for today.
So one of the things you’ll see as I go through these things
is, I’m not trying to belittle the response of the audience. I believe when we
do things that are radical, it is perfectly acceptable for the audience to have
a reaction. I believe that’s perfectly okay. The thing we’ve tried to do more
of, and I think we’ve gotten a little better, that’s why some of the earlier
stuff in some ways I think had bigger outroars, was we were trying to do more
of explaining to you guys why we’re doing what we’re doing.
And I feel like in a lot of ways, me writing my column every
week and a lot of the other behind-the-scenes stuff we do, we’ve gotten a lot
better at letting you guys understand our thought process. I think if Standard
were introduced today, and I could explain the long-term ramifications, I could
talk about why we want to do this. I think more people would have gone, “Oh, I
get it, okay, I see what you’re saying. I understand the reason you want to do
that.”
Now, I’m not saying no one would be upset, and we do things
now that people get upset. But I think that we have a means now to better
explain why we do things, and that it tempers it. Like, one of the truisms of
having worked on this game forever is people are going to get upset. Any change
we make. Any single change we make, people are going to get upset. It’s the
nature of the beast. It’s the nature of humans. Change is scary. And we’re a
game about change. And so every time we do something, and the more radical we
do, the bigger reaction we tend to get.
But the good news is, I look at all these things, and one or
two of them clearly were mistakes that we went back and fixed, like Nalathni
Dragon and Chronicles. But a lot of
them were like, “You know what? It actually was for the good of the game.” And
it’s very hard—I mean, it’s very easy now to look back and go, “Oh, yes,
Standard was very important. Oh yes, Sixth
Edition rules were very important.” That a lot of the things I’m talking
about today, like with 20/20 vision of time, oh, you get why we did what we
did. But in the moment, it’s a little harder to see.
And like I said, I do not begrudge our audience having
reactions. In fact, I love the fact that you guys care so much that every time something
happens you do care. One of the things we always say is, “We should be happy
whenever there’s an outcry about something, because the player base being
emotional is a sign that they really, really care about what we’re doing.” And
that—I mean, as they say, you can’t buy that. You can’t buy player investment.
That you have to earn player investment. And I’m very happy that we spent so
many years building it up and making people care and really, really be invested
in every decision that Magic makes. That makes me really happy.
So anyway, I’m now here at work, and I’m halfway done with
my trip through the 20 things that were going to kill Magic. So join me tomorrow, or sorry, join me next time, when I’ll
do the second half of “20 things that were going to kill Magic.” But, as much as I like talking about Magic and Magic history,
even more, I like making Magic. I’ll
talk to you next time, guys. Ciao.
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